G3844

• {"n":"John 17:5","s":"The glory which I had with thee before the world was. Glory again, and para with the dative.","u":"https:\/\/jayms.com\/bible-study-tools-2\/bible-translation-differences\/#id=john-17-5","r":"John 17:5","b":[{"l":"How modern translations read it","t":"Every version reads with thee or in your presence."},{"l":"First, in plain English","t":"**He had it with him.** Alongside, in company. Not sent from a distance."},{"l":"What you are seeing","t":"Para with the dative means beside, in the presence of. The same relational placement as pros ton theon at John 1:1, and the pairing of that verse with this one is the frame of the whole Gospel."},{"l":"Why translators split","t":"English with is flat enough to carry it, but the deliberate echo of the prologue is not visible."},{"l":"The rule to carry away","t":"When a Gospel's last discourse uses the vocabulary of its opening, the echo is structural. Look for the prologue in the prayer."},{"l":"Choosing between them","t":"With you is the majority rendering."},{"l":"The word","t":"\u03c0\u03b1\u03c1\u03ac para \u00b7 G3844"}],"src":["para with the dative: John 1:39; 8:38; 19:25","pros ton theon at John 1:1","The prologue and the prayer as bookends"]}