kicce
properly, covered, i.e. a throne
The word
H3678
Where it stands
kicce is tagged 135 times, across 22 books: 1kings 34 · psalms 18 · jeremiah 17 · 2chronicles 10 · 2kings 8 · isaiah 8 · proverbs 6 · 1chronicles 5 · ezekiel 5 · 1samuel 4 · 2samuel 4 · esther 3 and 10 more. It stands in 124 verses; the first 40 are listed below, in order.
Versions differ here
- {"n":"Psalm 45:6","s":"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever. The king addressed directly as elohim, quoted of the Son at Hebrews 1:8.","u":"https:\/\/jayms.com\/bible-study-tools-2\/bible-translation-differences\/#id=psalm-45-6","r":"Psalm 45:6","b":[{"l":"How modern translations read it","t":"Most versions read thy throne, O God, following the vocative reading and the Septuagint's own rendering, which Hebrews 1:8 quotes directly. A minority reading takes it as God is your throne, avoiding a direct divine address to the human king."},{"l":"First, in plain English","t":"English can say **your throne, God**, addressing someone as God directly, or **God is your throne**, making God the foundation rather than the one addressed. The Hebrew grammar here genuinely supports reading it the first way, and whether a human king is really being called God, even in an exalted, honorific sense, is exactly what makes the verse so debated."},{"l":"What you are seeing","t":"Elohim occurs four times in this psalm, at verses 2, 6, and twice in 7, with the surrounding occurrences clearly referring to God; the vocative reading, thy throne, O God, treats verse 6 as continuing that pattern, an extraordinarily exalted address to the Davidic king as God's own representative, perhaps even more than merely representative. The Septuagint reads it the same vocative way, and Hebrews 1:8 quotes that Greek text directly, applying the address to the Son as part of its argument for his superiority over the angels."},{"l":"Why translators split","t":"English must choose a subject and an address; thy throne, O God directly calls the addressee God, while God is your throne makes God a foundation rather than a title, two genuinely different claims that the Hebrew grammar, ambiguous enough to be argued for centuries, does not force in only one direction."},{"l":"The rule to carry away","t":"When a psalm's grammar allows a human figure to be addressed with divine vocabulary, take the ambiguity seriously rather than resolving it by assuming discomfort with the direct reading. Ancient Israelite royal ideology could apply exalted, even startling language to its kings as God's representatives."},{"l":"Choosing between them","t":"Thy throne, O God follows the Septuagint, matches the surrounding elohim occurrences in the same psalm, and is the reading Hebrews 1:8 explicitly builds on. God is your throne avoids directly calling a human king God but requires reading the Hebrew syntax somewhat less naturally against its immediate context."},{"l":"The word","t":"\u05db\u05b4\u05bc\u05e1\u05b0\u05d0\u05b2\u05da\u05b8 \u05d0\u05b1\u05dc\u05b9\u05d4\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd kis'akha elohim \u00b7 H3678 + H430"}],"src":["elohim's other occurrences in the same psalm: Psalm 45:2, 7","Septuagint's vocative rendering, quoted at Hebrews 1:8","Standard survey of both readings in major commentaries on Psalm 45 and Hebrews 1"]}
Where it appears
- 1chronicles 17:12
- 1chronicles 17:14
- 1chronicles 22:10
- 1chronicles 28:5
- 1chronicles 29:23
- 1kings 1:13
- 1kings 1:17
- 1kings 1:20
- 1kings 1:24
- 1kings 1:27
- 1kings 1:30
- 1kings 1:35
- 1kings 1:37
- 1kings 1:46
- 1kings 1:47
- 1kings 1:48
- 1kings 2:4
- 1kings 2:12
- 1kings 2:19
- 1kings 2:24
- 1kings 2:33
- 1kings 2:45
- 1kings 3:6
- 1kings 5:5
- 1kings 7:7
- 1kings 8:20
- 1kings 8:25
- 1kings 9:5
- 1kings 10:9
- 1kings 10:18
- 1kings 10:19
- 1kings 16:11
- 1kings 22:10
- 1kings 22:19
- 1samuel 1:9
- 1samuel 2:8
- 1samuel 4:13
- 1samuel 4:18
- 2chronicles 6:10
- 2chronicles 6:16
