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Echoes of Revelation

Revelation never quotes the Old Testament outright, yet no New Testament book refers to it more. See both texts side by side, why they don’t match, and what John does with them.

Revelation 4:11, you created all things and by your will they exist

The elders' hymn to God as Creator, who made all things by his will, echoes Nebuchadnezzar's praise in Daniel 4, where God does as he wills in heaven and on earth.

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Revelation 4:11

Revelation 4:11, in every translation this tool compares.

First, in plain English

A worker who praises the boss for building the company is also saying the boss decides what happens next. The elders throw down their crowns and praise God as worthy of glory, honor and power, because he made everything and everything exists by his will. Beale hears Daniel 4 behind it. There a humbled king praises the God who does as he wills in heaven and on earth.

What matches

Praise of God's will over all things. The Greek of Daniel 4:35 has kata to thelema autou poiei, he acts according to his will, in heaven and on earth. Revelation 4:11 has dia to thelema sou, because of your will. Beale adds that the old Greek of Daniel calls God the one who created all things, as John does, and that glory, honor and power also gather in Daniel 4.

Why it doesn't match exactly

Daniel praises God's power in history: he does what he wills among heaven's armies and earth's people. John makes it creation: God created all things, and by his will they were and were created. Beale says the old Greek translation of Daniel had already read the verse in terms of creation. The speaker changes too, from a humbled king to the elders.

What John does with it

Beale says the hymn stresses that all things exist to serve God's purposes and that he carries out his will through all of history without being stopped. For persecuted Christians that means even their suffering sits inside his plan. Chapter 5 then shows how he carries the plan out: through the Lamb.

What this echo is not

Not a hymn about the past alone. Beale reads they were, then were created, as God keeping all things going and also starting them. So the praise looks at the present as well as the first creation.

Go deeper

Beale finds the closest parallel to 4:11b in Nebuchadnezzar's closing hymn in Daniel 4: the old Greek of 4:37 calls God to ktisanti ta panta (the one who created all things) and gives his will, while Theodotion's 4:35 has God acting kata to thelema autou in heaven and on earth. He argues that the old Greek reads the Aramaic as creative rather than historical sovereignty. Both have aorist verbs of making followed by all things and a will construction. He adds dynamis and time in Daniel 4:34, 36 and doxa in 4:35-36 (old Greek), matching glory, honor and power, and finds a hint of a liturgy shaped by the Greek additions to Daniel 3. The vault's Septuagint gives Theodotion only, so the old Greek wording here rests on Beale. Keener and the NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible note that Domitian liked to be called our Lord and God. The NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible lists Daniel 4:37 among heaped-up praises. The grade is drawn here: Beale finds no closer combination of wording, theme and setting.

Where the sources disagree

Two scholars Beale names, Jörns and Deichgräber, argue for a general Old Testament and Jewish background to the hymn, not Daniel 4. Keener and the NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible read the title our Lord and God against the claims of the emperor Domitian. The study Bible adds that the Greek Old Testament already used the title for God (Psalm 99:8; 106:47).

The ancient world behind this passage
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Sources
  1. G. K. Beale, The Book of Revelation (New International Greek Testament Commentary), comment on 4:11
  2. Craig S. Keener, The IVP Bible Background Commentary: New Testament, on Revelation 4:11
  3. NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible, note on Revelation 4:11
  4. Septuagint, Daniel 4:35 and 4:37, Interlinear Greek-English Septuagint
  5. SBL Greek New Testament (MorphGNT), Revelation 4:11

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